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God Apprentice · Aug 06, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by serpant queen

ok i agree i ges iv just always wants defender and surivor
note i was making refrance to the bonus wepons not saying the promo was avalble that way and i dn think it says there will b a npc for the quests
ok i feel a bit foolish mby it shud b stated that presearing chars wont b givn the quests or that they will only b acesable through a npc in la for example

ether way sori i can get a bit hard headed some tyms
as for spelling i txt off my fone way to much
so rly dis is hw i wud hav splt things i hd 2 mke a conshs eft not 2 spl in txt

Until you learn how to form real sentences using the English language, DO NOT post on here again.

Griff Mon · Aug 06, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Putting all the annoyance with our friend that likes to "text" a lot, there is a valid point here. As far as the LDOA title goes, I seriously doubt that it would be accessible to pre-characters. Even if you have no chance of getting very far in the mission, just being able to kill a few higher level chars in the mission for the experience would greatly increase the speed at which you could get the title. And you do get access to your bonus weapons in pre and they are way overpowered for this part of the game, but if you pay your five bucks, they are there.

As far as the survivor title goes. First tier survivor is fairly easy to get, it is the grinding to the next levels that is a bit more of a challenge. If you can get a couple of these missions that give massive experience rewards that you have figured out you could really pick up the pace of that title.

strcpy · Aug 06, 2007, 05:54 AM // 05:54

As far as what is *technically* said they are available to every character, but they make no mention of playable or completable.

If we are to be as pedantic as the OP it would totally fulfill what they wrote for the missions to appear in you quest log yet require access to, say, Nolani Academe or take the place of the mission that moves you into post-sear Ascalon. You can not get from that one line what the OP said, in fact you can not get anything other than no character will be denied access - no mention of when or how you get said access. Remember the first three letters of "assume" when you start doing it.

I would be rather surprised if missions that took place between the searing and the start of prophecies were doable *before* the searing. This is how "Anet's Lies" get started - now how many times are we going to see across message boards and in game that pre-sear characters are going to get to play level 20 content and get the titles easy? And it was all someone who wanted something badly enough that they did some ...creative reading... of the FAQ.

strcpy · Aug 06, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Apprentice

Until you learn how to form real sentences using the English language, DO NOT post on here again.

There was an absolutely hilarious sketch quite a number of years back where people from the future were reading old letters from soldiers. They just read a few lines so the sketch isn't quite as long as it sounds.

It started back with the Revolutionary war, the Civil War, and had some from the Spanish American War. These were all very well written, almost poetic in verse. You then had WWI, WWII, and Korea - all fairly well written but more modern. Still, everything was fairly proper English.

Then they had one from "todays" war (first gulf war at the time), broken English, slang, misused words, and all sorts of things. It was both *really* funny and *really* sad in that they had used real actual letters.

I read things like what you are responding too and think of that skit now - if you simply jumped from a Civil War letter to "so rly dis is hw i wud hav splt things i hd 2 mke a conshs eft not 2 spl in txt" it really makes one sad. I do not really care how well they do it as long as they are trying, mistakes happen (I'm dyslexic - I VERY much know what it is like, sometimes I do not even get a word close enough that the spell checker can figure out what I mean and it makes some grammar mistakes *really* hard to spot), but that is pathetic outside of texting on a mobile phone.

The biggest hope is that as the individual gets older and continues to post on the internet and that type of writing is stays pretty much universally hated, maybe they will eventually learn to write. Locally our school board is trying to decide how to treat that type of writing in English class - apparently quite a number of teachers accept it and are fighting for it to be officially accepted (none of mine would - heck they wouldn't even allow mistakes due to me being dyslexic and that isn't something I can help). If said individual goes to college I can't wait to see their first written assignment

Darkobra · Aug 06, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

People are fighting to ENCOURAGE the slaughter of the English language? Just stick some one intelligent enough to take them all on their own. They'll be fighting a losing battle.

anshin · Aug 06, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

"Will the Bonus Pack be available to all characters in account or just one character per account?"

the answer to THIS question is what followed... available to all characters...

Will the Bonus Pack be available to all characters on the account, even the ones "currently" on pre-searing, or just one per account?

this is the question you want answered... but it isn't... and everyone above me made a good point... it is simply illogical to put such missions in the range of at least lvl16 as someone is going for survivor...

btw... are the tengu wars in the same time period as Pre? i don't believe so... but im not much into the lore thing... only the storyline:P

MisterB · Aug 06, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

So, this theory is based on a literal interpretaion of this quote, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonus Mission Pack FAQ

The bonus missions will be available to every character on the account.

Technically, all that states is the missions are available. It does not state exactly how, or after what condition or prerequisite. It just says they are managed in the Quest Log, which is rather vague. For example, the Vision of Glint quests are technically available to any character on an account with Prophecies, even one in pre-sear. But you have to leave pre-sear and beat the Hell's Precipice mission to get those quests. By the same token, we don't know the required condition or in-game mechanic of these missions, and we won't know anything further for quite some time.

Next time, please post in English.

TheRaven · Aug 06, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Well, FOW and UW are available to all characters, regardless of which campaigns are on the account. I don't think "available" = "can access right away". It just means that every character has the ability to go there at some point.

It seems to make sense that there will be a mission starter in each of the major towns. Something like a Krytan Historian that offers your character a chance to re-enact one of the greatest points in Tyrian history!! or something similiar.

I'm not even touching the English subject, because I might up saying something a bit too rude, but I still haven't understood any of the OP's posts. I only got the gist of the meaning from reading others replies.

God Apprentice · Aug 06, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by strcpy

There was an absolutely hilarious sketch quite a number of years back where people from the future were reading old letters from soldiers. They just read a few lines so the sketch isn't quite as long as it sounds.

It started back with the Revolutionary war, the Civil War, and had some from the Spanish American War. These were all very well written, almost poetic in verse. You then had WWI, WWII, and Korea - all fairly well written but more modern. Still, everything was fairly proper English.

Then they had one from "todays" war (first gulf war at the time), broken English, slang, misused words, and all sorts of things. It was both *really* funny and *really* sad in that they had used real actual letters.

I read things like what you are responding too and think of that skit now - if you simply jumped from a Civil War letter to "so rly dis is hw i wud hav splt things i hd 2 mke a conshs eft not 2 spl in txt" it really makes one sad. I do not really care how well they do it as long as they are trying, mistakes happen (I'm dyslexic - I VERY much know what it is like, sometimes I do not even get a word close enough that the spell checker can figure out what I mean and it makes some grammar mistakes *really* hard to spot), but that is pathetic outside of texting on a mobile phone.

The biggest hope is that as the individual gets older and continues to post on the internet and that type of writing is stays pretty much universally hated, maybe they will eventually learn to write. Locally our school board is trying to decide how to treat that type of writing in English class - apparently quite a number of teachers accept it and are fighting for it to be officially accepted (none of mine would - heck they wouldn't even allow mistakes due to me being dyslexic and that isn't something I can help). If said individual goes to college I can't wait to see their first written assignment

I can see if the person was dyslexic but they stated they type that way because of an excessive text messaging habit.

In The Q&A rules thread by Savio:

*Please use punctuation, sentences, and paragraphs in your posts. We need to be able to read your post first before we can answer it. If you have trouble spelling or using punctuation well, you should check Public Spell Checker and Punctuation.

Evilsod · Aug 06, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Its not gonna happen for 1 very big reason.

You could trade with people there to bring in post-searing items.

Thom The Brawler · Aug 06, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Well even if you were right and this did come out that way, it won't now that you posted in guru about it lol

How do you think all the good exploits get screwed up? Good going

Komradkyle · Aug 06, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Wouldn't it be Fantastic if we could go back to presearing in Hard-Mode. I just love the area but I don't have any characters to make anymore. Plus making characters in Cantha was the fastest way to level up and instant access to storage

Bruce Leeroy · Aug 06, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Maybe the op is text messaging from an Iphone.

strcpy · Aug 07, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Apprentice

I can see if the person was dyslexic but they stated they type that way because of an excessive text messaging habit.

In The Q&A rules thread by Savio:

*Please use punctuation, sentences, and paragraphs in your posts. We need to be able to read your post first before we can answer it. If you have trouble spelling or using punctuation well, you should check Public Spell Checker and Punctuation.

One will note that I very much agree with that, I listed dyslexic as one condition that would mitigate bad spelling/grammar - there are others (English as a second language is a great example). I'll even buy that your browser doesn't support a spell checker, where I used to work I was "stuck" in an obscure browser (due to the OS we used - I'm a software developer so I sometimes use very wonky hardware/software) so I had no spell checking. I can assure you that if Firefox didn't helpfully underline misspelled words and allow me to right-click for the correct spelling my posts would contain anywhere from 5-10 grossly misspelled words unless I follow a very long process to catch them (as is, I re-read each post at least three times - though that only does so much good due to being dyslexic).

Very lazy isn't really an excuse. Some amount of lazy can be - Yea, when I was using the above mentioned browser I could copy/paste my reply into e-mail, reboot to windows, download e-mail, copy/paste to word, spell check, copy/paste to e-mail, reboot, download e-mail, re-open to where I wanted to post, copy/paste, press "submit". Yet I doubt many would consider not doing that as truly "lazy" and be fairly accepting. By the same factor I can easily catch 99% of the grammar mistakes in any post I write if I save it and wait 3-5 days before I proofread/post it, yet I bet most would prefer they just notice that I tend to type "you" when I really mean "your" and other simple grammar mistakes that I have a really hard time catching. That's a much smaller problem than constant thread necromancy

But, as you point out, purposely posting in the same shorthand you use in text messaging isn't remotely the same thing. You should be able to tell that I try in my posts, yet you can also tell that the OP makes no attempt whatsoever at it. As I said, as long as someone is *trying* I could care less.

There have been a few times I've joined in hammering someone who ended up being an English as a tertiary language person (usually someone new to learning it), even though it appeared as if it was someone who wasn't trying. I still feel bad when I do that and I probably always will (for one thing. I am terrible at learning spoken languages) . Usually one can trace it down to a decent portion of those peoples "learning" coming from reading people who are typing like they are text messaging or have very poor written skills coupled with truly lazy. I would like to say I have learned my lesson there, and while somewhat true I still occasionally get it wrong - ah well, at least I apologize afterwards, I actually somewhat look up to people who speak/read/write a few spoken languages or those that work hard and overcome disabilities.

Masseur · Aug 07, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

You have to remember that PreSear is not a part of the actual game, it's just a training area that you spend some time practicing and gaining exp and skills to go "post" and start the actual game. So anything like these missions and such would typically only be available to you once you get into the actual game. Weapons and/or items are some times a different story.

Aug 06, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47	#22
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	Putting all the annoyance with our friend that likes to "text" a lot, there is a valid point here. As far as the LDOA title goes, I seriously doubt that it would be accessible to pre-characters. Even if you have no chance of getting very far in the mission, just being able to kill a few higher level chars in the mission for the experience would greatly increase the speed at which you could get the title. And you do get access to your bonus weapons in pre and they are way overpowered for this part of the game, but if you pay your five bucks, they are there. As far as the survivor title goes. First tier survivor is fairly easy to get, it is the grinding to the next levels that is a bit more of a challenge. If you can get a couple of these missions that give massive experience rewards that you have figured out you could really pick up the pace of that title.

Aug 06, 2007, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#23
strcpy Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: One of Many [ONE]	As far as what is technically said they are available to every character, but they make no mention of playable or completable. If we are to be as pedantic as the OP it would totally fulfill what they wrote for the missions to appear in you quest log yet require access to, say, Nolani Academe or take the place of the mission that moves you into post-sear Ascalon. You can not get from that one line what the OP said, in fact you can not get anything other than no character will be denied access - no mention of when or how you get said access. Remember the first three letters of "assume" when you start doing it. I would be rather surprised if missions that took place between the searing and the start of prophecies were doable before the searing. This is how "Anet's Lies" get started - now how many times are we going to see across message boards and in game that pre-sear characters are going to get to play level 20 content and get the titles easy? And it was all someone who wanted something badly enough that they did some ...creative reading... of the FAQ.

Aug 06, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23	#25
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	People are fighting to ENCOURAGE the slaughter of the English language? Just stick some one intelligent enough to take them all on their own. They'll be fighting a losing battle.

Aug 06, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42	#26
anshin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: R/	"Will the Bonus Pack be available to all characters in account or just one character per account?" the answer to THIS question is what followed... available to all characters... Will the Bonus Pack be available to all characters on the account, even the ones "currently" on pre-searing, or just one per account? this is the question you want answered... but it isn't... and everyone above me made a good point... it is simply illogical to put such missions in the range of at least lvl16 as someone is going for survivor... btw... are the tengu wars in the same time period as Pre? i don't believe so... but im not much into the lore thing... only the storyline:P

Aug 06, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#28
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	Well, FOW and UW are available to all characters, regardless of which campaigns are on the account. I don't think "available" = "can access right away". It just means that every character has the ability to go there at some point. It seems to make sense that there will be a mission starter in each of the major towns. Something like a Krytan Historian that offers your character a chance to re-enact one of the greatest points in Tyrian history!! or something similiar. I'm not even touching the English subject, because I might up saying something a bit too rude, but I still haven't understood any of the OP's posts. I only got the gist of the meaning from reading others replies.

Aug 06, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04	#30
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	Its not gonna happen for 1 very big reason. You could trade with people there to bring in post-searing items.

Aug 06, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#31
Thom The Brawler Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Well even if you were right and this did come out that way, it won't now that you posted in guru about it lol How do you think all the good exploits get screwed up? Good going

Aug 06, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#32
Komradkyle Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Profession: W/	Wouldn't it be Fantastic if we could go back to presearing in Hard-Mode. I just love the area but I don't have any characters to make anymore. Plus making characters in Cantha was the fastest way to level up and instant access to storage

Aug 06, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32	#33
Bruce Leeroy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007	Maybe the op is text messaging from an Iphone.

Aug 07, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#35
Masseur Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Profession: R/Mo	You have to remember that PreSear is not a part of the actual game, it's just a training area that you spend some time practicing and gaining exp and skills to go "post" and start the actual game. So anything like these missions and such would typically only be available to you once you get into the actual game. Weapons and/or items are some times a different story.